British media going crazy over Rafale Selection

[tilopa]

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The brits have gone crazy after rafale became the preferred bidder.
Comments on sites of thesun,dailymail and guardian are disgusting...you can see the anti-french sentiments and colonial mindset in them.



"i never buy anything with the word french in it - french is swear word - like all f words."
-A brit on thesun


India as 'cricket and curries'? That won't help win a fighter jet bid | Tristram Hunt | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
France swoops to rob UK of £13bn Indian jet contract | Mail Online
Brit jobs hit by French jets deal | The Sun |News

[ManuSankar]

Brits are bad losers,especially when they lose to other European countries like France.And yes this has to do with their colonial past.

[Rehan123]

The brits have gone crazy after rafale became the preferred bidder.
Comments on sites of thesun,dailymail and guardian are disgusting...you can see the anti-french sentiments and colonial mindset in them.



"i never buy anything with the word french in it - french is swear word - like all f words."
-A brit on thesun


India as 'cricket and curries'? That won't help win a fighter jet bid | Tristram Hunt | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
France swoops to rob UK of £13bn Indian jet contract | Mail Online
India as 'cricket and curries'? That won't help win a fighter jet bid | Tristram Hunt | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Original Post By tilopa

Er.. Did you read the Guardian article you quoted? The main body of the article does not mention the French beyond a mere passing reference. The article dealt with the authors thoughts on how the British polity's attitude towards colonialism may have damaged Typhoon's chances in the Indian MMRCA. The few (about 50) comments I read also dealt mainly with the authors assertions. The only mentions of France I found were a couple of posts where people thought typhoon was better, a mention of how little aid France gave to India, one mention of the Arcelor-Mittal deal and so on.

What I am trying to say is that I did not find any sustained slanging of the French in that article as you suggested exists (or have I missed something?). I am not denying that there are no articles/ user comments that have indulged in bashing India/France; in fact I am sure you could find plenty in right-wing papers like The Daily Mail and The Sun. It's just that you could have done better in your choices of articles to highlight.

[tilopa]

Er.. Did you read the Guardian article you quoted? The main body of the article does not mention the French beyond a mere passing reference. The article dealt with the authors thoughts on how the British polity's attitude towards colonialism may have damaged Typhoon's chances in the Indian MMRCA. The few (about 50) comments I read also dealt mainly with the authors assertions. The only mentions of France I found were a couple of posts where people thought typhoon was better, a mention of how little aid France gave to India, one mention of the Arcelor-Mittal deal and so on.

What I am trying to say is that I did not find any sustained slanging of the French in that article as you suggested exists (or have I missed something?). I am not denying that there are no articles/ user comments that have indulged in bashing India/France; in fact I am sure you could find plenty in right-wing papers like The Daily Mail and The Sun. It's just that you could have done better in your choices of articles to highlight.

Original Post By Rehan123

I think i forgot pasting 1 or 2 links

[tilopa]

Vive la France: The decision is a propaganda coup for French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who sneeringly claimed on Monday that Britain 'has no industry'

Read more: France swoops to rob UK of £13bn Indian jet contract | Mail Online

Daily Fail

[Guynextdoor]

I'm thinking maybe it's ok for those jobs to be at risk. If your product is not selected, the standard response is to go back to the drawing board and rework. If, instead of that, you're more interested in creating fantastical stories about how they were rejected though the french jet was 'whipped' in every way and some weird notions of why despite 'aid' the deal didn't come through, you're going against the first rule of business- you gotta give a profuct that the customer can find value in. If you get even that single, most fundamental of principles wrong, I guess it's only fair for your industry to be at risk....

[G777]

Worse is yet to come, I feel it.

Cameron is pushing extremely hard. I dont think we have EVER had a PM thats so devoted to this. But then he has me and millions of others breathing down his neck. All I wanted was AtoG weapons installed, geez. Thats all the bloody thing needs. Why cant cameron do that?

[G777]

Eurofighter better than Rafale: Britain - India News - IBNLive

UK team raises Eurofighter losing bid with MoD - Indian Express

You guys forgot these...

I sure hope this doesnt end up like a dogfight over the channel.

[TereBinLaden]

I feel like if negotiation fails with the French EFT will be in, but such a chances of such a scenario are of low probability and not invited as things will be further delayed.

[G777]

I feel like if negotiation fails with the French EFT will be in, but such a chances of such a scenario are of low probability and not invited as things will be further delayed.

Original Post By TereBinLaden

Thats what Cameron will be thinking.

[Guynextdoor]

Eurofighter better than Rafale: Britain - India News - IBNLive

UK team raises Eurofighter losing bid with MoD - Indian Express
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You guys forgot these...

I sure hope this doesnt end up like a dogfight over the channel.

Original Post By G777

while i don't agree with the 'better' part and qualify it to 'better in some ways', point is that the IAF wasn't looking for 'the best' fighter but the fighter it best capable of performing the specific role it wanted it to perform. There may also have been economies of scale- IAF+ Navy= overall lower total cost of ownership

[G777]

while i don't agree with the 'better' part and qualify it to 'better in some ways', point is that the IAF wasn't looking for 'the best' fighter but the fighter it best capable of performing the specific role it wanted it to perform. There may also have been economies of scale- IAF+ Navy= overall lower total cost of ownership

Original Post By Guynextdoor

Thats why I was hoping for more AtoG weapons to be installed, Eurofighter cant perform the roles Rafale can and will be until 2018 more or less until it gets its AtoG weapons.

[halloweene]

Why not simply accepting indian choice?
Do you think it is fair to send governement advocates in a private (EADS/indian dovernment) afair?
EFT has good porspects in Oman and SA. I have read a lot of posts on Telegraph etc sites. Juest made me sad about some (many) french bashing.

[G777]

Why not simply accepting indian choice?
Do you think it is fair to send governement advocates in a private (EADS/indian dovernment) afair?
EFT has good porspects in Oman and SA. I have read a lot of posts on Telegraph etc sites. Juest made me sad about some (many) french bashing.

Original Post By halloweene

I DONT KNOW!!!!!! I am so confused, why do they keep saying it has better cababilities if it cant even fire a Taurus?

[halloweene]

I DONT KNOW!!!!!! I am so confused, why do they keep saying it has better cababilities if it cant even fire a Taurus?

Original Post By G777

Tbh blame uk, german, italy and spain governments, not frech and indian (i know you didnt on EFA forums)